tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post112111563851090440..comments2024-03-01T06:27:41.786-05:00Comments on Damian McNicholl's Blog: Orangemen's Day--a brief historyM. Damian McNichollhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12991119735240044243noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post-36071711223800654912019-06-16T18:00:49.248-05:002019-06-16T18:00:49.248-05:00I went to school with Orange lads and lasses in No...I went to school with Orange lads and lasses in Northeast Philadelphia, 1957-1969. They were good kids and stayed out of trouble.Most of them were Presbyterian or fundamentalist Protestant with an occasional Methodist.We all attended public elementary and high school and never had any problems. If they didn't like the Pope or Roman hierarchy, that was their belief system and culture. Catholics in Northeast Philadelphia hated Jews, most Protestants and the Orthodox Christians back then. Today, this might include Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus.If Biden gets in, we will find out how different from the late John F. Kennedy he truly is.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06884515668674233106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post-51220365587755617362017-07-11T13:08:08.846-05:002017-07-11T13:08:08.846-05:00....yes, something , over simplified , as the incu.......yes, something , over simplified , as the incumbent pope backing his buddy William to defeat the French usurpers and their claim as pope ....battle of the boyne ....battle of the popes . Irony1690https://www.blogger.com/profile/17881801343844912732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post-56953795187549675392014-08-03T15:11:41.558-05:002014-08-03T15:11:41.558-05:00orangemen are idiots and have done nothing but cau...orangemen are idiots and have done nothing but cause grief to othersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post-7946754113547620662011-07-28T12:47:45.812-05:002011-07-28T12:47:45.812-05:00My grandmother was given an orange sash from her s...My grandmother was given an orange sash from her side of the family. I have been given it and am looking for historical information and pictures to verify the age of the sash. Where can I go to get any historical information?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post-28613546467738397712010-07-15T14:23:41.108-05:002010-07-15T14:23:41.108-05:00I read with interest all the comments. When I was...I read with interest all the comments. When I was 9 yr old my grandfather passed away and these men came to our house and took his locked trunk and said they would pay for the funeral. I later learned he was an Orangeman - and today I can say if that is what orangeman stands for I am truly embarassed and apologetic for anything he may have done. How absolutely ridiculous and unchristian for people to have acted that way. Who cares - catholic, protestant - they both believe in God and I am sure God was not and is not pleased with how these barbarians acted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post-29075631617174028982009-07-12T22:04:38.329-05:002009-07-12T22:04:38.329-05:00I am an Irish descended American who has visited E...I am an Irish descended American who has visited Eire on a few occasions. I never saw any public hate offense directed to Protestants but assume that some did occur, people being people. I often think of the similarity of the muslim mullahs and those in the North who have taken up the torch of the now redeeemed Rev. Paisley. Pray God forgive us.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01475625044413478666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post-20470266698109665232009-05-22T15:16:25.284-05:002009-05-22T15:16:25.284-05:00i have a orange brigade sash could anyone give me ...i have a orange brigade sash could anyone give me info on it please it was my grandads dbrgubb@aol.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post-69171740321459055912008-05-07T18:20:00.000-05:002008-05-07T18:20:00.000-05:00having some good friends in the lodges of scotland...having some good friends in the lodges of scotland and Belfast i do not think that they should have to struggle for the right to march where they like and i wish them every success in there on going fight babzAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post-1155296395795554382006-08-11T06:39:00.000-05:002006-08-11T06:39:00.000-05:00It would seem that Ulster and ireland have major p...It would seem that Ulster and ireland have major problems.But i have to say here in England the womans lodges and children's lodges all march on the 12th of July.Catholics watch the parade and very little trouble happens apart from maybe a few drunken teens shouting abuse.I laugh when i see blogs set up by people supporting one side and stating they are impartial.........<BR/><BR/>let the orangeman,WOMAN,children have there parades accept it as part of the culture of Northern Ireland.If you don't like it don't go and watch.<BR/>The whole of ireland is so wrapped up in the us and them attitudes from both sides, That it shadows all the other orange parades around the world that don't have the trouble.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post-1152713782097321552006-07-12T09:16:00.000-05:002006-07-12T09:16:00.000-05:00Thanks for dropping by Oracle--typos and all :)To ...Thanks for dropping by Oracle--typos and all :)<BR/>To be honest, I'm not in the least biased. Over here and in England wher I lived, people don't care what religion people are--most of us anyway and Christian Right excepted in the US. And I sought out and befriended protestants when I lived over there.<BR/><BR/>But, in the end, the pettiness and hatred was a major factor in my getting out of the place. The world is too big and too full of excitement and interesting people for me to languish in the detritus of Northern Ireland's affairs. I like to go there to visit--but that's it.M. Damian McNichollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12991119735240044243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post-1152653353497879852006-07-11T16:29:00.000-05:002006-07-11T16:29:00.000-05:00Sorry about the typos on that last post. It was a ...Sorry about the typos on that last post. It was a bit rushedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post-1152635614910051142006-07-11T11:33:00.000-05:002006-07-11T11:33:00.000-05:00Im live in Belfast and thought I would let all you...Im live in Belfast and thought I would let all you know some truths.<BR/><BR/>1/ To be fair to beano he is right women are very often massively involved in the lodges. Indeed they are some of the strongest supporters I have ever met. <BR/><BR/>2/ When violence broke out most people retreated into safety in their "own sides" area. This is why Londerry / Derry assumed its population spread (~70% catholic). The ongoing "ethnic cleansing" that occurs in Derry is mostly on the loyalist side. Its a common statistic on hate crime reports that ~85% of all non-racial intimidation is loyalist. This percent has went down in recent years. Republicians are very far from blameless but to be fair lets not mention only the minor side. <BR/><BR/>3/ I have to question making a technicality of whether a March goes through an area or round it? On the lower Ormeau road the march goes past the catholic area so why are they annoyed. Well... One year at a bookmakers on the lower Ormeau innocent catholics were shot by loyalists in retaliation for republician attacks. So what did the orange march do that year on passing the bookmakers? The members faked shooting each other at the bookmakers in front of the nationalist protest line which included family members of the dead. The readers can make their own minds up whether this "passing" was upsetting or not.<BR/><BR/>4/ "many catholics also think it quite funny to lob bottles, bricks, bombs..." Really? Sure you don't want to say republicians. It's not exactly a mere technicality. Sure most republicians are catholics but I would never call protestants bigots. However I would call orangemen (who are bigots by the statute of the loyal order). Imagine someone attacked the Jewish faith for the mistakes of Israel's army. Truly, you betray you own inherent bigoty by this remark. Espically with the little patronising remark at the end of that paragraph.<BR/><BR/>5/ Orangemen are not demonised by propaganda but by the scenes of shame they bring to the North. Want some propaganda. I had a 16 year old cousin who on coming back from town crossed a March. Some supporters spotted the collar of an Ireland top under his coat (his dad is from Dublin) and started to beat him. A middle aged orangeman came over stopped the fight, punched him and told him to "F**K off and dont let me see you in this street again". If you dont believe this I dare anyone to watch a March in a Celtic, Ireland or Gaelic T-shirt (For anyone stupid enough to do this be warned you will get beat). <BR/><BR/>Truth be known I will be happy to see Orange Marchs on the 12th of July,ulsterday down any road they like. But only once there is equality I can March down beside celebrating the Easter risings. <BR/><BR/>By the way im not religious and I dont want a united Ireland. I soley want to live somewhere I can walk down the street and not get beaten for what im wearing or where im from.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post-1126878951636380282005-09-16T08:55:00.000-05:002005-09-16T08:55:00.000-05:00Let's not forget to mention that the Orangemen are...Let's not forget to mention that the Orangemen are "Masons"!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post-1123082522207876462005-08-03T10:22:00.000-05:002005-08-03T10:22:00.000-05:00Thanks for the diatribe, Beano. And to my fellow A...Thanks for the diatribe, Beano. And to my fellow Americans--by the way Beano, I'm also American and my Granda was born here--this is part of the reason why I quit my homeland.M. Damian McNichollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12991119735240044243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9911070.post-1122542790087023472005-07-28T04:26:00.000-05:002005-07-28T04:26:00.000-05:00A completely unbiased account the type of which yo...A completely unbiased account the type of which you'd come to expect from an "Irishman".<BR/><BR/>I'm no expert on the Orange Order but even I know that while women don't become members, they have the Women's Loyal Orange Lodge. <BR/><BR/>You've also completely over-simplified the marching through "catholic areas" bit. Aside from the fact that most of the areas did contain Protestants (before some degree of ethnic cleansing in many areas like Londonderry's west bank) so-called contentious marches like Ardoyne don't so much go through a Catholic area as past it on the way to and from a Protestant area.<BR/><BR/><EM>"Many Catholics think it quite funny to watch the Orangemen strutting"</EM><BR/>Yes, and many catholics also think it quite funny to <A HREF="http://www.everythingulster.com/blogs/index.php/everythingulster/2005/07/13/a_republican_12th_july" REL="nofollow">lob bottles, bricks and blast-bombs (like nailbombs) at the police</A> service who are trying to keep the peace. But sure 'tis all in great "craic" isn't it?<BR/><BR/>You also don't seem to tell your readers that the defeat of King James also saw the end to absolute monarchy, something no doubt most of your American neighbours would welcome.<BR/><BR/>But well done, obviously another graduate of the Sinn Fein school of propaganda - you have the ability to demonise 1 million people in Northern Ireland simply for their nationality. <BR/><BR/>So what if we celebrate a war 300 years ago? Do you also recommend your American friends stop celebrating Independence Day? Sure it was 200 years ago now.<BR/><BR/>Maybe we should celebrate Ulster Day instead, to mark the day when hundreds of thousands of Ulstermen and women turned out to sign a declaration that they would never be dominated by Dublin, that wasn't even a century ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com